‘Confederate History Month’ Declared By Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell

Our economy is a mess and Virginia school’s are being closed, but never fear my fellow Virginians our Governor has a grasp on things and has declared April Confederate History Month.

Do we really need a month to ponder Confederate history?  I think not……just a matter of minutes should be enough and southerners need really only learn one thing.  THE SOUTH LOST.  Get over it.  For God’s sake, quit re-enacting battles from a war in which the south got it’s ass kicked.  Put your confederate flags in storage and and move on already.  There’s really nothing noble about a heritage that includes a bunch of hot heads that got thousands of people killed and the infrastructure of the south destroyed.

As for the governor, quit playing to your racist right-winger nut case base.

Virginia’s Republican Governor Bob McDonnell has declared April to be “Confederate History Month,” the first time in 8 years that such a proclamation has been issued in the state.

In the statement, McDonnell says that the Confederate history “should not be forgotten, but instead should be studied, understood and remembered,” and that its leaders “fought for their homes and communities and Commonwealth in a time very different than ours today.”

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37 Responses to ‘Confederate History Month’ Declared By Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell

  1. AliSilver says:

    The confederacy is something that is very near and dear to some. Just because you don’t cherish does not mean someone else should not. Not sure if it warrants a whole month,,,,, Not everyone who cherishes their southern roots is a racist hot head.

    Sage Reply:

    My great grandfather was at Appomattox when the Lee surrendered after fighting for the south, but I don’t get why anyone would take great pride in anything that split our country, destroyed the south, and was a losing cause based on racism. Everyone I’ve ever met that is still obsessed with the confederacy is a racist…..some a little more subtle than others. I live in an area where they have re-enactments every year and it’s embarrassing.

  2. AliSilver says:

    You live in a state that has a rich confederate heritage. I live near a little german town and every year they have german festivals with food and beer and dance, ALL GERMAN. In theory, couldn’t I go and protest that its promoting naziism? If I wanted to be that kind of person, which I don’t. But it’s just a matter of history. It is a historical fact that southern states fought in a war and because they don’t want to FORGET that, I don’t know why you get so shook up about it. If it’s too embarassing to live there, move. Because you don’t know why THEY take great pride in it does not mean they should NOT take great pride in it. It is not strictly about slave ownership. That is one of the hugest misconceptions about the civil war. It’s their families, it’s their culture. I fully accept that some don’t like it , but to say others should not is petty.
    Im sorry , petty is an aggravating word. Lemme rephrase that to say,, do unto others…….. noone of us like people telling us how to feel, so we shouldn’t tell others how to feel. Pride is a feeling ;)

    Sage Reply:

    Do the Germans in your town have a WWII History Month? A Nazi Party history month? I think you are comparing apples and oranges.

    The civil war was about slavery. The confederacy was about protecting slavery. And it really doesn’t matter any more because the confederacy is gone and has been for a long time. There are many descendants of slaves in Virginia and why should “their” governor be declaring a special month to honor the confederacy that oppressed their ancestors? It’s disrespectful as hell.

    As for moving, this is my home and I can work to change things and am free to express my opinion and I will continue to do so. I was born and raised in Virginia and I think it’s time the yahoos look to the future and quit living in the “glorious” past of the confederacy and all the ignorance inherent to it.

    The idiot Virginia Governor didn’t mention slavery in his first proclamation stating later that it wasn’t significant to Virginia….excuse me? Slavery wasn’t significant? He’s now apologized after being lambasted for the moron that he is.

    AliSilver Reply:

    @Sage, I actually read a lot this morning about this. I didnt’ want to speak what I thought was the case without researchingit a bit to be sure. Several points , The civil war was about STATES RIGHTS, included were slavery and other points. The only point anyone seems to want to remember is slavery. The North at the time, as you ‘ll see in the link below, also had slaves. Abe Lincoln’s family owned slaves. This is probably what may have provoked Abe to want to abolish slavery, but nonetheless, his northern family OWNED slaves. It is thought today and for sure in the North, that the whole war was about slavery and the dumb hillbillies in the south loved having slaves. Anywhere from 10 to AT MOST 30% of the population in the south owned slaves. So that leaves at least 70 at most 90% NOT owning slaves. Yet, the entire south has had to live under the ‘dumb slave owning hillbilly’ blanket for over a hundred years. Only the very wealthy owned slaves, which means most if not ALL of the actual combatants from the south were NOT slave owners. They may have been fighting for something else, like the right of the states , individually.
    As for YOUR governor, he must have a big majority of people in VA who support the idea and want the idea or he wouldn’t be doing it.
    Sorry Sage, you and I split hairs on this one because we are both from the deep south. From what I read this morning, my state had more slave owners than the others, but that still leaves 70% or more of the state, just being citizens, who did nothing wrong. Now because they want to fly a flag, it MEANS they are racist. It’s an unfair blanket assumption.

    Sage Reply:

    No, the civil war was about slavery. States rights was the excuse that was used. I’ve read and studied the civil war without having to have a confederate month declared and what it all boiled down to was the south didn’t want to give up it’s slaves. The non-slave owners were dragged into the conflict by the wealthy slave owners and whipped into a frenzy with the red herring of states rights.

    The war was over more than a hundred years ago. Arguing about it solves nothing. Arguing about it doesn’t change the fact that the south got it’s ass kicked after starting a war that decimated the south. It’s time the south took the responsibility for that and quit whining about the evil north.

    The Confederacy started the war when it attacked a U.S. military installation at Fort Sumter, South Carolina and then later southerners wanted to whine about how awful the north was when it burned it’s way through the south. One shouldn’t start a war that it isn’t prepared to lose.

    Dwelling on the hatred and anger attached to the civil war is unhealthy and divisive. It’s time for southerners to join the 21st century instead of having to be dragged into it.

    Sage Reply:

    I want to clarify what I said. Like most wars, the Civil War was started by rich men (for their own purposes) for poor men to die in. There were many underlying reasons for the Civil War, not the least of which was money, BUT the rallying cry that was foisted on the public was slavery. The south rallied around the slavery issue because it knew that it was at the heart of it’s economy. That’s why I said it was about slavery.

    AliSilver Reply:

    @Sage, Not comparing apples to oranges, but just saying ‘don’t throw out the baby with the bathwater’ . Germans are free to celebrate their heritage EVEN though it had an AWFUL incident in it. So why can Southernors not do the same, EVEN though it had an AWFUL incident in it? See?

    Sage Reply:

    The Germans aren’t, if I understand it correctly, proclaiming a month to glorify the Nazis, Hitler or WWII. Confederate month being proclaimed by the governor who didn’t mention the evil of slavery is glorifying an institution that was based on the horrors of slavery. If southerners want to celebrate their heritage they can declare national biscuit eating month….that I could go for. Sweet tea and biscuits with ham are some of the best things about the south.

    AliSilver Reply:

    @Sage, There are German fests all over the country, just happens to be one by me. My POINT was you can still celebrate German heritage without being PRO HOLOCAUST. That was my point. :)

    Sage Reply:

    I understand, but I don’t think it is comparable to Confederate History month.

    timesr Reply:

    @AliSilver, “Germans are free to celebrate their heritage EVEN though it had an AWFUL incident in it. So why can Southernors not do the same, EVEN though it had an AWFUL incident in it? See?”

    So what would you think if Germany decided to celebrate Nazi History month, if they chose to pick that one awful incident in their past for special notice? That’s what Confederate History month does, it picks the name, “Confederate History” that applies to one brief period in the history of the South, to honor with special notice.

    AliSilver Reply:

    @timesr, I think you cannot erase history, good or bad , by taking away the rights of the people who want to celebrate it. Let’s go back to Germany for a minute. Jewish populations have many MANY ways of remembering the holocaust,, museums, books, buildings, laws, etc etc. The german people were vehemently anti Hitler. They , for the most part, had no choice but to do his bidding or risk punishment. So for regular non nazi germans, I’m sure the holocaust museums are a real sore spot for them. See? That may be rambling. I just think if VA is a state where enough people agree with the GOV and want this to go forward, then so be it. Thats where they live. That’s their history. That’s their right. I’m sure the gov has public favor or it wouldn’t even be an issue.
    It would be impossible for germany to want to celebrate nazi history month because the country of Germany was taken over , basically, by Hitler and probably wishes to forget the whole thing. The southern states of America, clearly do not want to forge the whole thing yet. This I do not know the answer to, hopefully you or Sage does……. When exactly did the term CONFEDERATE come to be used ?

    timesr Reply:

    @AliSilver, “The german people were vehemently anti Hitler. They , for the most part, had no choice but to do his bidding or risk punishment.”

    That is just not true.

    There are estimates that between 1/6 and 1/3 did not support Hitler, but the majority did. At this point in history, Germans would rather forget the whole thing, but that doesn’t change the support Hitler had at the time.

    “When exactly did the term CONFEDERATE come to be used ?”

    When the South left the Union and called themselves The Confederate States of America. So to celebrate Confederate History month is to celebrate that period of time when the South went to war to hang on to their right to own and completely control the lives of other human beings.

    Sage Reply:

    Why exactly do they need a confederate history month to celebrate their heritage?

    Amid mounting criticism, Gov. Bob McDonnell offered a mea culpa Wednesday for omitting mentions of slavery in a Confederate History Month proclamation he issued, saying he will amend it to acknowledge that human bondage led to the Civil War.

    “The failure to include any reference to slavery was a mistake, and for that I apologize to any fellow Virginian who has been offended or disappointed,” the governor said in a statement Wednesday evening.

    “The abomination of slavery divided our nation, deprived people of their God-given inalienable rights, and led to the Civil War,” the governor said. “Slavery was an evil, vicious and inhumane practice which degraded human beings to property, and it has left a stain on the soul of this state and nation.”

    No shit, McDonnell. Why are you declaring a month to celebrate the system that led to the stain on the soul of this state???????

  3. AliSilver says:

    http://www.slavenorth.com/

    Sage Reply:

    The civil war was over in 1865. I don’t care to argue the ancient history of it. I’ve studied it in the past (without a proclamation from a governor) and it just doesn’t matter any more. It’s over. It’s time to give it up instead of allowing it to continue to fester hatred and mistrust.

    AliSilver Reply:

    @Sage, The ancient history of it? Does the fact that Northernors owned slaves also in no way change the story of the dumbass redneck racist southernor?
    Thats kind of like ‘don t let facts get in the way of a good argument’

    Sage Reply:

    No, it really doesn’t change anything. The war has been over for a long time and it’s time to move on and quit glorifying a lost cause.

    If you don’t live in an area like I do you can’t know how angry lots of southerners still get over the civil war. It’s like a disease eating at them that keeps them angry. It’s unhealthy to continue to obsess over a war that ended in 1865. Seriously unhealthy.

    AliSilver Reply:

    @Sage, Lol, ok !
    So Southern slave owners are racist redneck idiots and Northern slave owners are just good and proper yankees ! One group has been villified for a century and the other sides’ history has been pretty well hidden from public knowledge for a century. Stereotypical slave owners must be from the south.

    timesr Reply:

    @Sage, “If you don’t live in an area like I do you can’t know how angry lots of southerners still get over the civil war. It’s like a disease eating at them that keeps them angry. It’s unhealthy to continue to obsess over a war that ended in 1865. Seriously unhealthy.”

    When I see certain people promoting the idea of another revolution or civil war on the internet, I think about that. As a nation, we’re still getting over the last one.

    timesr Reply:

    @AliSilver, “Does the fact that Northernors owned slaves also in no way change the story of the dumbass redneck racist southernor?”

    I believe those stereotypical images started in the South and then moved North. Southern white elite didn’t exactly hold poor whites in high esteem, higher than blacks but still not up to snuff.

    The first time I was in the South and saw the side of a motel painted with the words, “Negro Cabins”, I was stunned. Of course I knew that stuff existed, but it was none the less shocking to see it.

    AliSilver Reply:

    @timesr, I’M not trying to justify southerners disrespecting an entire race, at all. I’m just saying the south has been unfairly painted as SLAVE OWNERS, as IF they were the only ones. No one knows any yanks even had slaves.

    timesr Reply:

    @AliSilver, “I’m just saying the south has been unfairly painted as SLAVE OWNERS, as IF they were the only ones.”

    All Southerners did not own slaves, however the Confederacy was about defending the right to own slaves.

    Sage Reply:

    I knew some northerners had slaves but I don’t think that is any justification for slavery in the south. It has no particular bearing on the Civil War as far as I’m concerned.

    AliSilver Reply:

    @Sage, I never claimed it was justification. It’s just odd how one side is villified and the other is apparently forgiven for the same act. That you call slave owners southern redneck morons and don’t mention the other folks who had them. I say ‘slave owners’ are the assholes, north or south. And southerners are just southerners. Also I was thinking about your earlier statement, dunno which one, but I would be willing to bet that the most extreme REBEL FLAG flying rednecks that you see are just young drunken thugs who are just racist to begin with and I bet that the re enactors are more older folks who are history buffs and are a whole different class of people that the first. But that’s just a guess. I know around here in the 80′s a lot of skinheads carried and wore rebel flags. When asked if they were from the south, they said NO.

    Sage Reply:

    Why bring it up if it isn’t justification? I don’t get it. The north didn’t have a whole system of commerce built around slavery. yes, some individuals owned slaves but the whole economy wasn’t based on slavery. Big difference. Plus, I don’t see the north having Union History Month. It’s not about who was at fault, it’s about the southerners inability to put the anger and hatred to rest and leaving the past behind. It’s just downright stupid in my opinion.

    PS
    I’ve seen plenty of older people with their confederate flags.

    AliSilver Reply:

    @Sage, Do the people of VA support the Gov in this ?

    Sage Reply:

    Some do, many don’t. I haven’t seen a poll.

  4. AliSilver says:

    But a MONTH yes, that’s overkill. I’d way rather have Halloween for a month :P

  5. AliSilver says:

    Well, here’s the deal. I went searching yesterday to see what percentage of southerners owned slaves. Because my thinking was that only a small percentage did. That it is a shame for the whole of the South to live under the dark cloud of slavery when only a % participated. How generalizations hurt populations, especially today with minorities, when a few bad apples spoil the cart. I think of what American Muslims have been through since 911 , because a handful of their peers acted out. So while looking I found out about the Northern slave owners and that just totally blew me away because there is almost no mention of it anywhere. I am nearly 40 and grew up in the South with DEEP SOUTH family roots and have never heard this before. So for my people ( clearly poor folks) to be thrown under the bus over what some rich white folks did 150 years ago is aggravating . That the North claims superiority on the matter , when they TOO owned slaves is doubley aggravating. Do you see where I’m coming from? That was not in the topic and I veered way off course and for that I apologize, but it’s what I came across while looking into the topic. Are there tons of deeply racist buffoons in the deep south,,,,,yes a resounding YES. There are tons in Texas too, which is not considered deep south, I don’t think. Do they wrap themselves in the Rebel flag while screaming about their hate? SURELY they do. But they are the idiots…not the flag. I would imagine today in Afghanistan and Iraq and probably many other countries, they view the US FLAG as a symbol of oppression and hate and suffering. I know they do. So should we stop flying the flag here?
    As far as your governor goes I said a month was overkill. But I don’t think you can erase history no matter how hard you try. History is just that,,, not always good or bad. Should we only teach kids in school the GOOD things in history? So I see your point and I hope you see mine. The north continually spits in the face of the south to this day. STILL they do and you tell the South to get over it because they lost?

    When I was a kid, about 7 or so, we went to Grand Teton National Park. VERY gorgeous for those who haven’t been. Back then kids talked to strangers and no one was worried, unlike today. So I was talking to some strangers who had kids as well and they asked where I was from because of my accent. When I told them, they looked mortified like I had said MARS was my home . They took their kids and didn’t talk to me anymore. Was that fair? I didn’t do anything wrong, nor did anyone in my family. They were the poorest of the poor people, surely owned no slaves, but the STIGMA carried through several generations and across 6 state lines. So when the South is no longer treated like a red headed step child I will get over it.

    Sage Reply:

    I doubt the reaction you got at Grand Teton had anything to do with the confederacy or slavery. It probably had more to do with politics or something else. How do you know where those people were from?

    The north continues to spit in the south’s face? Really? How so? I think your reply proves to some point what I was saying. You’re very angry at the north to this day. You want to argue the merits of the civil war and the hypocrisy of the north but the civil war was over 145 years ago. How long do you think it should take for the south and southerners to get over it and let it go? Why are you so angry over something that happened so long ago?

    As for the south being treated like the red headed step child, maybe it should quit poking at the rest of the country with it’s confederate flags, confederate history month proclamations, the racism, the right wing wackos that permeate the south. Maybe the good people of the south need to rise up and condemn the skin heads and the Klan instead of remaining silent. Often, one gets treated the way one deserves to be treated based on one’s actions.

    AliSilver Reply:

    @Sage, I have no idea where they were from. By your own statement you’re saying the reason the south is treated like a red headed step child is because of its racism, right wing wackos and confederate flag…… After saying it’s not treated any differently. So you summed it up. As for the non racist, non redneck idiots, why do they have to be thrown under the same blanket because of their birthplace? Anyway, you and I don’t see this one eye to eye. What kind of politics in the 70s would cause some one from ‘points unknown’ to walk away from a kid only after learning she’s from the south, OTHER than civil war topics? I was a young’n so I don’t necessarily KNOW what other political items may have been brewing at that time. That’s true.
    Anyway i just sent you a HOT email !

    Sage Reply:

    No, I’m saying that IF the south was at some point treated badly. I haven’t seen the north spitting in the face of the south in my lifetime.

    Who knows why those people walked away. To say it was because of civil war topics is a big leap . You don’t know where they were from or what their political, religious, etc. beliefs were so I don’t think it’s accurate to assume it was because of civil war topics.

    AliSilver Reply:

    @Sage, And honestly a part of your statement is true. I am SUPER ANGRY after reading yesterday that the North had slaves and even Lincolns family had them and that part has been kept quiet while the rest of the nation looks down on the south for the very thing. Because that’s not taught in schools. Also not taught is what small % were slave owners. That % has no excuse and I don’t even intend to defend them. But there is a whole population who had nothing to do with that and is continually spit upon for something they didn’t do.

  6. AliSilver says:

    And to the idiot redneck racist flying the rebel flag around you , they are PERPETUATING the Stereotype. So THEY are the ones causing the continued feelings about the south, not necessarily the regular citizens who just want to work and play and enjoy life. It is a shame that every one from there has to constantly justify and try to reverse the stereotype when there are some hell bent on keeping it like it is. Shame on them.

  7. AliSilver says:

    I’m really done now. No matter what you say I ‘ll bite my tongue :P
    Cuz new topics are coming up…… I can tell.

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