Does Sarah Palin want to kill your grandma?
The same woman who signed the Healthcare Decisions Day observance had the audacity and temerity to accuse Obama of having a death panel based on a provision to pay doctors for end of life counseling? Really? Did she think nobody would notice that she was for end of life directives before she was against them?
We all know politicians are all capable of great acts of hypocrisy but this ranks way up on the hypocrite scale. Why is it the “liberal” media talked for 2 days about her death panel statement but never, to my knowledge, uttered a word about her hypocrisy? Given her objection obviously isn’t about the actual Health Care Reform bill provision, just what is her objection? Could it be partisanship? Or as the church lady would say, “could it be Satan?”
WHEREAS, Healthcare Decisions Day is designed to raise public awareness of the need to plan ahead for healthcare decisions, related to end of life care and medical decision-making whenever patients are unable to speak for themselves and to encourage the specific use of advance directives to communicate these important healthcare decisions. WHEREAS, in Alaska, Alaska Statute 13.52 provides the specifics of the advance directives law and offers a model form for patient use.
WHEREAS, it is estimated that only about 20 percent of people in Alaska have executed an advance directive. Moreover, it is estimated that less than 50 percent of severely or terminally ill patients have an advance directive.
WHEREAS, it is likely that a significant reason for these low percentages is that there is both a lack of knowledge and considerable confusion in the public about Advance Directives.
WHEREAS, one of the principal goals of Healthcare Decisions Day is to encourage hospitals, nursing homes, assisted living facilities, continuing care retirement communities, and hospices to participate in a statewide effort to provide clear and consistent information to the public about advance directives, as well as to encourage medical professionals and lawyers to volunteer their time and efforts to improve public knowledge and increase the number of Alaska’s citizens with advance directives.
WHEREAS, the Foundation for End of Life Care in Juneau, Alaska, and other organizations throughout the United States have endorsed this event and are committed to educating the public about the importance of discussing healthcare choices and executing advance directives.
WHEREAS, as a result of April 16, 2008, being recognized as Healthcare Decisions Day in Alaska, more citizens will have conversations about their healthcare decisions; more citizens will execute advance directives to make their wishes known; and fewer families and healthcare providers will have to struggle with making difficult healthcare decisions in the absence of guidance from the patient.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, Sarah Palin, Governor of the state of Alaska, do hereby proclaim April 16, 2008, as:
Healthcare Decisions Day in Alaska, and I call this observance to the attention of all our citizens.
Dated: April 16, 2008
Thanks to garagehero for the heads up on this.




August 17th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Now that you’ve reminded me of SNL’s Church Lady, I realize that she and Sarah Palin resemble each other in ways. The glasses, the pursed lips, the constant search for Evil, for Satan, in everything and everybody. Maybe Church Lady is Palin’s dream (or nightmare?) of what she will grow into being in her later years.
Okay, that was a mite snide, but why should I apologize for remarks about someone who knowingly and deliberately lies about so-called “death panels?”
August 17th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Looks like this part was missed in the exchange: “encourage medical professionals and lawyers to volunteer their time and efforts to improve public knowledge and increase the number of Alaska’s citizens with advance directives.”
Whereas Obama wants to pay doctors incentives to encourage citizens to make arrangements for their care, Palin encourages the doctors to volunteer. Money can be an incentive to do a lot of things, can it not?
I am a grandma and no, Palin, isn’t out to “kill” me. She obviously made a serious point or Obama and Co. wouldn’t have caved so fast on the public option. If there hadn’t been just cause they would have spent time with the Bill but didn’t do that either. Everyone, including Congress needs to “read the bill” for themselves.
Sage Reply:
August 17th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
No, he doesn’t want to pay incentives. He wants to pay them for their time just like when they get paid to see you in an office appointment. They aren’t going to get bonuses to convince you to die. Good Lord. The public option didn’t have anything to do with the clause about paying doctors to counsel people on end of life directives. They are two entirely different issues.
August 17th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
It is merely wording that has everyone in a tither. What is the difference in a death panel and a group of professionals to talk about end of life? This is a game of you say potato……. imho.
Sage Reply:
August 17th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Calling it a death panel and going on to say that your elderly mother or disabled child will have to go before a panel to determine if they are worthy of living is a whole lot different IMO.
August 17th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
I think you got it wrong. Palin wanted end of life conversations to be with professionals…not government agents…huge difference…Obama’s bill is entirely wrong, Palin’s option was correct…
Sage Reply:
August 17th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
No, you have it wrong. The bill only called for insurance to pay DOCTORS to have the discussion with their patients.
August 17th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Palin did NOT say it would be to determine if they lived or not. She said it would be to determine if they got health care or not.
Sage Reply:
August 17th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Virtually the same thing but I stand corrected.
August 17th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
SEC. 123. HEALTH BENEFITS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
12 (a) ESTABLISHMENT.—
13 (1) IN GENERAL.—There is established a pri14
vate-public advisory committee which shall be a
15 panel of medical and other experts to be known as
16 the Health Benefits Advisory Committee to rec17
ommend covered benefits and essential, enhanced,
18 and premium plans.
19 (2) CHAIR.—The Surgeon General shall be a
20 member and the chair of the Health Benefits Advi21
sory Committee.
22 (3) MEMBERSHIP.—The Health
Sage Reply:
August 17th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
That’s not the same thing we are talking about….or at least what I was talking about. Sorry, I think there is two conversations going on.
August 17th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Medical “AND OTHER EXPERTS”…….. who are they , I wonder?
Sage Reply:
August 17th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Nurses for one.
AliSilver Reply:
August 17th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
You don’t think a nurse is a’medical expert’? Maybe they are not. But it is language that needs clarifying. If it’s nurses, they should have said so. Or maybe it is the ‘nurse practitioners’ who now ar in every doctor’s office and there is no doctor around. Does that go on whwere you live? All the ” dr’s ” offices here have nurse pract. Then when you get a prescription is is STAMPED by a doctor you’ve never met. Risky business , but I guess it’s legal. it’s been going on for years !
August 17th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Not every person on the PANEL is a doctor or even a medical expert.
August 17th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
OH BLAAAA,,, THe thing has changed so immensely and full blocks of it dropped off, there is no telling what it says now !
August 17th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
I have to run and pick up my kid in the middle of cooking dinner. I ‘m pushing a pan to the back with BEEF in it half cooked and I’m betting when I get back, my dinner is gone, my dog is licking her lips and we are calling pizza. Wish the beef luck !
August 17th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
I don’t often share personal stuff but I’m going to tonight.
This issue isn’t a philosophical or ideological discussion for me. It’s personal.
I just spoke with my husband who is once again out of town in order to be with his best friend who is dying. The time is really close now. Cancer has won the battle that he has valiantly fought for 6 months. He can no longer fight and is at home in a hospital bed, on morphine, waiting to die.
I wonder if he had the insurance and the money for something like Cancer Centers of America if the story would have a happier ending. If he weren’t a Veteran he wouldn’t have had as good of care as he did and it wasn’t top of the line by any means.
So, this is personal. My husband has spent hours visiting and driving his friend to and from the hospital which is 60+ miles in each direction. And my husband is going to lose a friend that has been his best buddy for over 50 years.
So, yes, I’m upset and I’m emotional and I have no patience with people who think politics or the wallet of the wealthy is more important than lives. I’m angry that a good man didn’t have better options and I’m angry that I couldn’t do more than support my husband and bake bread to send to his dying friend.
Forgive me, please, if I don’t make a big distinction from a man dying in a bed or in the streets all because he didn’t have adequate health care close by.
And anybody who thinks I give a rat’s ass about Bill Gate’s profit margin can piss off.
kert Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
“I wonder if he had had . . . .” Hmmm. I can understand your emotions regarding the loss of your husband’s friends, but I don’t see how it relates to the health care debate. Your post leaves me with three questions.
1. You really have no evidence that your friend could have survived longer if he had had different care, do you? You just “wonder” if he would have.
2. Why didn’t your friend have better health insurance coverage?
3. What makes you think he would have gotten better, or even as good of, care under some kind of government run health care? (Especially in light of the full-fledged failures of most government run programs, both in this country and in others.)
timesr Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
“3. What makes you think he would have gotten better, or even as good of, care under some kind of government run health care? (Especially in light of the full-fledged failures of most government run programs, both in this country and in others.)”
That sounds like something that gets repeated without being thought through.
“The VA health system continues to receive the best quality scores of any segment of the U.S. health system, with the most satisfied patients. It beats the best HMOs in quality ratings, has a model information system, and focuses on primary care. It has led in addressing medical errors and in its application of AHRQ quality guidelines to both inpatients and outpatients. In 2004 it won the Baldridge Prize for quality and patient-safety improvements.”
This is kind of interesting:
“There is a lot we can learn from the Walter Reed disgrace. Its operation was outsourced to a Halliburton-connected company in 2002, over the objections of some Army medical personnel and leadership, with a subsequent drastic reduction in staff and loss of government employees with institutional experience. There was also some hanky-panky with the contracting process; when the government employees’ bid for the operations contract came in lower than the Halliburton company’s bid, the bids were “recalculated” to make the private company the lowest bidder.”
(This section was contributed by Dr. Anne Carroll.)
Sage Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
My point wasn’t that the VA gave him bad care. As a matter of fact the local VA is one of the best in the country.
He lives quite a distance from the VA which contributed, in my opinion, to the cancer not being detected sooner. He didn’t have a local primary care physician because he didn’t have insurance. He didn’t have insurance because he got laid off his job. Maybe if he had good insurance it would have been caught by a primary care physician sooner and he could have gone to somewhere like The University of Virginia, MCV or Cancer Centers of America.
leslie Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:36 am
In some areas of the country, the VA hospitals are so far from home that the patient needs to spend the night somewhere – not home – in order to be seen by a doctor. I have first-hand knowledge of a patient who had to drive himself back and forth (and was a danger to himself and others doing so) in order to receive a diagnosis of dementia and then be told he couldn’t drive any more. How does one receive treatment when one cannot even get to the doctor safely?
When there was an easily accessed VA hospital in my town – right across the street from one of the most prestigious hospitals in the nation, it was closed because “the vets” made the wealthy patients of said prestigious hospital uncomfortable. The stated reason was that the VA hospital was “not well utilized”. (a completely bogus claim.) I used to take my father there (and I trained in the nationally acclaimed hospital across the street). The VA was ALWAYS busy and filled with pts waiting to be seen and treated.
Sage Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
I think if the cancer had been found sooner he might have lived and had he had good private insurance he could afford it very well may have been found sooner. He didn’t have that better health insurance because he was a victim of layoffs. The VA hospital was a good distance away from him. And I said I wonder. What’s your point? It’s pretty hard to ever know what might have been. I do know that with earlier detection he would have had a better chance of survival.
I don’t think most government run programs are full-fledged failures but I was speaking of government sponsored INSURANCE.
And by-the-way, the VA Hospital IS a government run health care plan.
kert Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Sage, my point is that you really are just “wondering” and from there you are extrapolating that nationalized health care would be better. On top of that, you don’t even know if a nationalized health care plan would allow patients to go to those clinics/hospitals you listed. Maybe his care would have been worse. Maybe the system will be so over-burdened that he would have gotten worse treatment. What I’m saying is that you are assuming that something different will be better. In fact, something different could be quite worse.
I think it is quite normal, and in fact quite common, for people to “wonder” what they could have done differently in order for there to be a better outcome. However, something different isn’t necessarily better.
Also, I don’t buy the argument that because he doesn’t have health insurance he couldn’t have gone to a doctor. A doctor visit doesn’t cost that much. Sure, it would be an added expense that he wouldn’t be thrilled about incurring given his unemployment. But, for the life of me, I don’t understand why people are so unwilling to pay for their own health care. They’ll pay for cable TV, internet, cell phones, cigarettes, alcohol, cars, “toys”, trips, etc., etc., but health care? Nope. It doesn’t even seem to be on the radar screen for most people. Perhaps as a society we need to convince people to rearrange their priorities. Maybe if people prioritized health care right up there with putting a roof over their head and food in their mouth, then they wouldn’t put off seeing a doctor when they don’t feel well.
I’m not just talking about your husband’s friend. I think this is a problem that permeates society – whether it be employees that think they shouldn’t have to pay any portion of their health insurance, or insured who bitch that they have a $20.00 or $40.00 co-pay.
Sage Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
You know nothing about what he can and can’t afford. His wife had two heart attacks and is on disability and he’s unemployed due to a layoff. They live in a house that was passed down to him when his mother died – it’s a very old farm house. His health care options locally suck.
You don’t know jack about his situation, so you’re talking out your ass.
leslie Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:39 am
I’m sorry, Sage. This is a rough time for both of you.
I lost my best friend to cancer not long ago, and I understand what this time is like.
You’ll all be in my thoughts.
Sage Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Hi, leslie. Thank you. It has been a tough time and especially for my husband.
August 17th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Sage Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 12:03 am
Thank you. It’s been a rough night. 2 of the guys who were going to be at the friends camp tonight went home because they couldn’t emotionally handle it. My husband will hang with his friend until the end. So, as sad as I am about our friend and his wife, I am also worried about my husband. I don’t know how to help him through this. I don’t want to be as clueless as I was when his mother died. I don’t think I was much comfort to him because I was just too young to understand.
timesr Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 12:24 am
Don’t tell me that you understand
Don’t tell me that you know
Don’t tell me that I will survive
How I will surely grow.
Don’t tell me this is just a test
That I am truly blessed
That I am chosen for this task
Apart from all the rest
Don’t come at me with answers
That can only come from me
Don’t tell me how my grief will pass
That I will soon be free
Don’t stand in pious judgment
Of the bounds I must untie
Don’t tell me how to suffer
And don’t tell me how to cry
My life is filled with selfishness
My pain is all I see
But I need you, I need your love
Unconditionally
Accept me in my ups and downs
I need someone to share
Just hold my hand and let me cry
And say “My Friend, I Care.”
Anonymous
The poem makes sense to me.
My dad died last Tuesday.
Sage Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 12:30 am
I’m so sorry, timesr. You have my deepest condolences and I sincerely mean that. I haven’t experienced the death of a parent and I can just only imagine how painful it is.
I wish I could do something to help make things better – death just sucks.
I don’t cry often but I did have a friend to cry with today and it helped.
That poem is beautiful and appropriate. Thanks so much for posting it.
leslie Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:39 am
I am sorry for your loss.
AliSilver Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 7:38 am
Oh No Times… Hugs from Tx..
Sage,,, Pray for peace and strength and you’ll know what to do. Most likely in these kind of times, I like to just be as quiet and let them do the talking. Because sometimes it’s hard to find the words ,,, and that is because there are no words really that can comfort like a strong sturdy shoulder will.
August 18th, 2009 at 9:46 am
Thank you both.
There isn’t any way around it, death does suck.
August 18th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Yeah, geez, you have a point. It’s hard to believe the liberal media which never ignores a chance to belittle, berate, criticize or ridicule Sarah Palin and/or her family COMPLETELY missed this hypocrisy angle you have cooked up. You should alert the media to their oversight!
2fewfactsaround Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
kert, I hope you have good insurance, because it sure sounds like you need a heart transplant. The heart you’re currently carrying around apparently isn’t working well.
August 18th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
:O