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		<title>By: AliSilver</title>
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		<dc:creator>AliSilver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you&#039;re good at your job!  :)
So , what is it about YOU that makes you BETTER than 
some of the others in your field ?  Not in specifics, just
generally . Are you more honest, reliable, trustworthy and hardworking than others?</description>
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So , what is it about YOU that makes you BETTER than<br />
some of the others in your field ?  Not in specifics, just<br />
generally . Are you more honest, reliable, trustworthy and hardworking than others?</p>
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		<title>By: Wizcon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wizcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said, they are nothing more than call centers.</description>
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		<title>By: Wizcon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wizcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your welcome. One of the investigators I am working with told me that Arkansas has also issued a Cease and Desist order against the one we are looking at. The investigation goes on there as well. That company shows up twice on the Operation PDF already.Please note that not all states have joined in the FTC effort yet. Its pretty new.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your welcome. One of the investigators I am working with told me that Arkansas has also issued a Cease and Desist order against the one we are looking at. The investigation goes on there as well. That company shows up twice on the Operation PDF already.Please note that not all states have joined in the FTC effort yet. Its pretty new.</p>
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		<title>By: Wizcon</title>
		<link>http://mountainsageblog.com/2009/07/16/loan-modifications-and-the-new-predators-by-guest-author-wizcon/comment-page-1/#comment-24858</link>
		<dc:creator>Wizcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL we are talking about 2 things. I am talking about those outside of the banks protocol professing to be consultants. They are not calling your Debt collectors on behalf of the homeowners. They are just saying they are going to and not doing it. Their target is the fee they are charging the owners on that promise. They are inserting themselves between the home owner and the Debt collector and not following through. Homeowner thinks its being processed when its not.
Check out the BBB site on Foreclosure/loanmodification consultants.
The irony is that once in foreclosure the banks are really losing a lot of money. One of my realtor freinds has a bank owned listings that started out at 199,900 when first listed with another realtor. Yesterday, it was reduced again to $77,900. The bank has also been paying maintenence, taxes etc on that property for a year. At the end , they will pay commission to the realtors or auctioneer . Not the sherrif. They use an online austion service. They have had 7 offers so far. All well above the 77,900. The original owner qualified for a modification for more than that but not what the bank wanted when they initially foreclosed on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL we are talking about 2 things. I am talking about those outside of the banks protocol professing to be consultants. They are not calling your Debt collectors on behalf of the homeowners. They are just saying they are going to and not doing it. Their target is the fee they are charging the owners on that promise. They are inserting themselves between the home owner and the Debt collector and not following through. Homeowner thinks its being processed when its not.<br />
Check out the BBB site on Foreclosure/loanmodification consultants.<br />
The irony is that once in foreclosure the banks are really losing a lot of money. One of my realtor freinds has a bank owned listings that started out at 199,900 when first listed with another realtor. Yesterday, it was reduced again to $77,900. The bank has also been paying maintenence, taxes etc on that property for a year. At the end , they will pay commission to the realtors or auctioneer . Not the sherrif. They use an online austion service. They have had 7 offers so far. All well above the 77,900. The original owner qualified for a modification for more than that but not what the bank wanted when they initially foreclosed on them.</p>
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		<title>By: Pumas Unleashed</title>
		<link>http://mountainsageblog.com/2009/07/16/loan-modifications-and-the-new-predators-by-guest-author-wizcon/comment-page-1/#comment-24850</link>
		<dc:creator>Pumas Unleashed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You’re like a politician. I asked a straightforward question and you rattled on a lot of useful information, but not an ANSWER to my question.&quot;

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The point is- if I wasn&#039;t a &quot;good&quot; Loan Officer, I wouldn&#039;t qualify for a Loan Officer/Loan Originator license and most of my  business is by referral and repeat business.

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&quot; These are the folks that offer to help you get a loan modification by contacting your lender for you and doing the negotiations. These are the folks that are ripping people off by taking their money and running. The FTC and several states have formed.&quot;

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Maybe you missed it in my post. Anyone seeking a Loan Modification whether they are calling themselves or are having someone do it for them are NOT talking to the Bank/Lender. They or their agent are speaking to a Debt Collector representing the Lender.

Since February, my office has over 75 loan modifications in to the Debt Collectors representing the Banks...To date, 3 have been resolved to the benefit of the homeowner. The rest are in Loan Modification Limbo as the link from Politico indicates and verifies as of July 17 the Loan Modification programs are a failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You’re like a politician. I asked a straightforward question and you rattled on a lot of useful information, but not an ANSWER to my question.&#8221;</p>
<p>*******************<br />
The point is- if I wasn&#8217;t a &#8220;good&#8221; Loan Officer, I wouldn&#8217;t qualify for a Loan Officer/Loan Originator license and most of my  business is by referral and repeat business.</p>
<p>*********************</p>
<p>&#8221; These are the folks that offer to help you get a loan modification by contacting your lender for you and doing the negotiations. These are the folks that are ripping people off by taking their money and running. The FTC and several states have formed.&#8221;</p>
<p>***********</p>
<p>Maybe you missed it in my post. Anyone seeking a Loan Modification whether they are calling themselves or are having someone do it for them are NOT talking to the Bank/Lender. They or their agent are speaking to a Debt Collector representing the Lender.</p>
<p>Since February, my office has over 75 loan modifications in to the Debt Collectors representing the Banks&#8230;To date, 3 have been resolved to the benefit of the homeowner. The rest are in Loan Modification Limbo as the link from Politico indicates and verifies as of July 17 the Loan Modification programs are a failure.</p>
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		<title>By: Sage</title>
		<link>http://mountainsageblog.com/2009/07/16/loan-modifications-and-the-new-predators-by-guest-author-wizcon/comment-page-1/#comment-24849</link>
		<dc:creator>Sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wizcon, that&#039;s an amazing amount of information.  Thank you.</description>
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		<title>By: Wizcon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wizcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Puma, if you scroll up you will see me stating that the title is a bit misleading. My original article was longer and talked about the loan modification/foreclosure consulatants popping up all over.
These are the folks that offer to help you get a loan modification by contacting your lender for you and doing the negotiations. These are the folks that are ripping people off by taking their money and running. The FTC and several states have formed 
&quot; Operation Loan Lies&quot; to join together in finding and prsecuting these new predators. Currently there are 189 actions started against around 169 of these companies. California&#039;s Department of Real Estate actions consist of &#039;Cease and Refrain&quot; orders since that is the Dept that regulates this kind of business there. There are many many many of those on Operation Loan Lies list.  The majority of the fly by night operations are based in California with AZ catching up. Other States have actual lawsuits filed by their attorney generals on behalf of their citizens. Bottom line there is a horde of predators totally ignoring federal and state laws. For the list in PDF form go to
http://www.ftc.gov/os/2009/07/090715casesummary.pdf

Like the so called loan officers and mortgage brokers of the sub prime frenzy, these loan modification consulting companies have call centers contacting homeowners offering their product. I once asked a loan officer on the phone what he did prior to his current job and he told me he worked at The Gap. At the time he was begging me to &quot;Save his Loan&quot; because the borrower was objecting to the terms of the final doc&#039;s. They were very different from what they talked about. These are the loans needing to be modified.

Notary&#039;s are called off loan closer data bases to go to the homeowner&#039;s homes with the  modifications apllication materials.These are mostly a contract between the homeowner and the consulting company. The notary is actually acting as a courrier. There is nothing to notarize on the documents. My feeling is that notaries are sent to give them credibility as officers of the State. The homeowners are told the notary is the company rep, often the notary is not aware of this. That in itself is illegal.
You are right, there are different levels of notary&#039;s acting as closers. That is because many title companies utlize a middle man entity called a Signing Service to find someone to close the loan in the field. They often call the random notary  to offer a low fee to close a loan while the Signing Service keeps the bulk of the fee paid by the Title company. I go and resign many refinances that these notaries have messed up. In the 10 years that I have been doing this, I have eliminated all but a few of Signing Services in my client base and work directly with attorneys and title companies. Not all notary&#039;s are just paying a fee to do this.
There are many that concientiously educating themselves on what they are doing. Their primary role in these closings are as a notary acting under notary law for their state  first.  I am not shy about refusing to witness document&#039;s under notary law. 
I am a Registered Signing Agent. Not many notaries certified By the National Notary Association could pass that designation based on their coursework with the NNA for both notary education and Signing agent certification.
&quot;Each Sub-Prime Lender was a subsidy of an investment bank you would easily recognize. This is the reason why I have taken the time to explain all this in depth for alerting you to keep your eye on the right ball. It isn’t mortgage brokers or Loan Modifiers that need watching but it is the banks you should be watching as they are the nemesis that are the real threat to our way of life.&quot;

Wells Fargo, Bank of America, Citibank and Chase are not Banks?
I can&#039;t count how many nasty looking ARMs i closed for them over the years. It seems very few banks service their own loans anymore.
In house loans tend to cost more.
The refinances I have been closing lately have taken longer to process as the underwiters seem to be a lot more cautious. Also the borrowers seem a lot more informed. Many are asking why they aren&#039;t seeing their HUD (settlement statement&quot; prior to the closing as promised. In looking at my stats, 94% are still borrowing over 80% LTV and are required to have the PMI and escrow accounts. I have also closed 2 ARM&#039;s in the last couple of weeks. I haven&#039;t done that for about  a year and a half. Both were Bank of America. They are the ones that bought Countrywide. Also BOA is using a lot of the same doc&#039;s templates Countrywide used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Puma, if you scroll up you will see me stating that the title is a bit misleading. My original article was longer and talked about the loan modification/foreclosure consulatants popping up all over.<br />
These are the folks that offer to help you get a loan modification by contacting your lender for you and doing the negotiations. These are the folks that are ripping people off by taking their money and running. The FTC and several states have formed<br />
&#8221; Operation Loan Lies&#8221; to join together in finding and prsecuting these new predators. Currently there are 189 actions started against around 169 of these companies. California&#8217;s Department of Real Estate actions consist of &#8216;Cease and Refrain&#8221; orders since that is the Dept that regulates this kind of business there. There are many many many of those on Operation Loan Lies list.  The majority of the fly by night operations are based in California with AZ catching up. Other States have actual lawsuits filed by their attorney generals on behalf of their citizens. Bottom line there is a horde of predators totally ignoring federal and state laws. For the list in PDF form go to<br />
<a href="http://www.ftc.gov/os/2009/07/090715casesummary.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ftc.gov/os/2009/07/090715casesummary.pdf</a></p>
<p>Like the so called loan officers and mortgage brokers of the sub prime frenzy, these loan modification consulting companies have call centers contacting homeowners offering their product. I once asked a loan officer on the phone what he did prior to his current job and he told me he worked at The Gap. At the time he was begging me to &#8220;Save his Loan&#8221; because the borrower was objecting to the terms of the final doc&#8217;s. They were very different from what they talked about. These are the loans needing to be modified.</p>
<p>Notary&#8217;s are called off loan closer data bases to go to the homeowner&#8217;s homes with the  modifications apllication materials.These are mostly a contract between the homeowner and the consulting company. The notary is actually acting as a courrier. There is nothing to notarize on the documents. My feeling is that notaries are sent to give them credibility as officers of the State. The homeowners are told the notary is the company rep, often the notary is not aware of this. That in itself is illegal.<br />
You are right, there are different levels of notary&#8217;s acting as closers. That is because many title companies utlize a middle man entity called a Signing Service to find someone to close the loan in the field. They often call the random notary  to offer a low fee to close a loan while the Signing Service keeps the bulk of the fee paid by the Title company. I go and resign many refinances that these notaries have messed up. In the 10 years that I have been doing this, I have eliminated all but a few of Signing Services in my client base and work directly with attorneys and title companies. Not all notary&#8217;s are just paying a fee to do this.<br />
There are many that concientiously educating themselves on what they are doing. Their primary role in these closings are as a notary acting under notary law for their state  first.  I am not shy about refusing to witness document&#8217;s under notary law.<br />
I am a Registered Signing Agent. Not many notaries certified By the National Notary Association could pass that designation based on their coursework with the NNA for both notary education and Signing agent certification.<br />
&#8220;Each Sub-Prime Lender was a subsidy of an investment bank you would easily recognize. This is the reason why I have taken the time to explain all this in depth for alerting you to keep your eye on the right ball. It isn’t mortgage brokers or Loan Modifiers that need watching but it is the banks you should be watching as they are the nemesis that are the real threat to our way of life.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wells Fargo, Bank of America, Citibank and Chase are not Banks?<br />
I can&#8217;t count how many nasty looking ARMs i closed for them over the years. It seems very few banks service their own loans anymore.<br />
In house loans tend to cost more.<br />
The refinances I have been closing lately have taken longer to process as the underwiters seem to be a lot more cautious. Also the borrowers seem a lot more informed. Many are asking why they aren&#8217;t seeing their HUD (settlement statement&#8221; prior to the closing as promised. In looking at my stats, 94% are still borrowing over 80% LTV and are required to have the PMI and escrow accounts. I have also closed 2 ARM&#8217;s in the last couple of weeks. I haven&#8217;t done that for about  a year and a half. Both were Bank of America. They are the ones that bought Countrywide. Also BOA is using a lot of the same doc&#8217;s templates Countrywide used.</p>
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		<title>By: AliSilver</title>
		<link>http://mountainsageblog.com/2009/07/16/loan-modifications-and-the-new-predators-by-guest-author-wizcon/comment-page-1/#comment-24846</link>
		<dc:creator>AliSilver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lemme try again...... 

AliSilver Says: 
July 17th, 2009 at 4:40 pm 
Question for Pumas…..Do you think you are a good loan officer and processor? Do you excel in your profession?

Reply


You&#039;re like a politician. :P I asked a straightforward question and you rattled on a lot of useful information, but not an ANSWER to my question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lemme try again&#8230;&#8230; </p>
<p>AliSilver Says:<br />
July 17th, 2009 at 4:40 pm<br />
Question for Pumas…..Do you think you are a good loan officer and processor? Do you excel in your profession?</p>
<p>Reply</p>
<p>You&#8217;re like a politician. <img src='http://mountainsageblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  I asked a straightforward question and you rattled on a lot of useful information, but not an ANSWER to my question.</p>
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		<title>By: Pumas Unleashed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pumas Unleashed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>POLITICO has a new article out today on the failure of Loan Modifications and placing the blame where it belongs; on the Fed bureaucracy helping the Banks stonewall homeowners.

Absolutely worth a read:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25095.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>POLITICO has a new article out today on the failure of Loan Modifications and placing the blame where it belongs; on the Fed bureaucracy helping the Banks stonewall homeowners.</p>
<p>Absolutely worth a read:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25095.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25095.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pumas Unleashed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pumas Unleashed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AliSilver, the State of Massachusetts is the National model for setting the standard writing legislation to be adopted nationwide.

I am NMLS licensed in MA and RI which hold  reciprocal agreements to their laws. You cannot practice in RI if you are suspended in MA and visa-versa. To be eligible for licenses in either state, you must have 40hrs of recognized training from their list of approved schools becoming knowledgeable in State and Fed Regulations. You must take a written test, be fingerprinted, submit to a Federal background check, and pass a Credit Check. A little more than paying a fee to be a notary witness to a transaction which is generally the case for Real Estate Agents.

The latest level of Federal and State regulations for Loan Officers and Mortgage Brokers are to be in compliance with the law is designed specifically to eliminate Mortgage brokers and loan originators from the financial landscape. Why? Because most of us advocate for our clients. The subject post speaks of Loan Modifications. A year ago, there were no regulations in place. Those regulations  are in place now put there by Federal regulators. There is a limit to how much can be charged for Loan Modifications... not the purported waiting for the  &quot;next level of nastiness&quot;..

When a home-owner is in danger in of foreclosure they are told via a bank letter call the bank holding the mortgage.  They are not speaking to the Bank itself, they are speaking to a Debt Collector hired by the bank who has access to that bank&#039;s customer data base and has a script for dealing with the homeowner. It is a fact, 80% of the deals made with the debt collector on behalf of the banks within the last year have failed and the homeowner is being foreclosed on.

I highly recommend dealing with a licensed Broker or Loan Originator in either MA or RI. 

Banks are the entities that want to control your lives. The sooner it is recognized by the public at large, Banks are about accruing enough power to tell you if you are even eligible to work at a job.. through your credit score. 

For more financial information you can go to my site, looking back to the March posts for more information at: http://pumasunleashed.wordpress.com

Fair-Issac controls your credit score (and the only credit bureau recognized by banks) ... Bad Credit, sorry, the report on your job application has deemed you ineligible for this job.

 Banks- The sooner you understand the dynamic going on, the sooner you will realize the jeopardy the citizens of this country are in... and it isn&#039;t from Mortgage Brokers or Loan Originators. They were the scapegoat used by the banking industry to throw you off the sins they&#039;ve committed with your assets. 

Your stock portfolio, your pension fund, your retirement savings, your college funds under the auspice of our glad handing Congress never regulating Hedge Funds. Which is exactly where the sub-prime loans went during 2000 to 2005 and which caused this Financial Crisis by way of derivatives.

Each Sub-Prime Lender was a subsidy of an investment bank you would easily recognize. This is the reason why I have taken the time to explain all this in depth for alerting you to keep your eye on the right ball. It isn&#039;t mortgage brokers or Loan Modifiers that need watching but it is the banks you should be watching as they are the nemesis that are the real threat to our way of life.

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Desert Sage Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 10:15 am

Predatory lending is only peripheral to the core issue… Why not expand your prose with what allowed the predatory lending to occur, namely government forced lending practices and lack of oversight?

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Desert Sage,

I&#039;ve touched on that issue in my above response. Worrying about Loan Modifications and the Loan Originators who do them is a complete waste of time. It&#039;s the Banks, Congress and the Fed that should be the focus.

I&#039;m not sure who your question was directed to, myself or Wizcon. I&#039;ll leave it up to you to continue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AliSilver, the State of Massachusetts is the National model for setting the standard writing legislation to be adopted nationwide.</p>
<p>I am NMLS licensed in MA and RI which hold  reciprocal agreements to their laws. You cannot practice in RI if you are suspended in MA and visa-versa. To be eligible for licenses in either state, you must have 40hrs of recognized training from their list of approved schools becoming knowledgeable in State and Fed Regulations. You must take a written test, be fingerprinted, submit to a Federal background check, and pass a Credit Check. A little more than paying a fee to be a notary witness to a transaction which is generally the case for Real Estate Agents.</p>
<p>The latest level of Federal and State regulations for Loan Officers and Mortgage Brokers are to be in compliance with the law is designed specifically to eliminate Mortgage brokers and loan originators from the financial landscape. Why? Because most of us advocate for our clients. The subject post speaks of Loan Modifications. A year ago, there were no regulations in place. Those regulations  are in place now put there by Federal regulators. There is a limit to how much can be charged for Loan Modifications&#8230; not the purported waiting for the  &#8220;next level of nastiness&#8221;..</p>
<p>When a home-owner is in danger in of foreclosure they are told via a bank letter call the bank holding the mortgage.  They are not speaking to the Bank itself, they are speaking to a Debt Collector hired by the bank who has access to that bank&#8217;s customer data base and has a script for dealing with the homeowner. It is a fact, 80% of the deals made with the debt collector on behalf of the banks within the last year have failed and the homeowner is being foreclosed on.</p>
<p>I highly recommend dealing with a licensed Broker or Loan Originator in either MA or RI. </p>
<p>Banks are the entities that want to control your lives. The sooner it is recognized by the public at large, Banks are about accruing enough power to tell you if you are even eligible to work at a job.. through your credit score. </p>
<p>For more financial information you can go to my site, looking back to the March posts for more information at: <a href="http://pumasunleashed.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://pumasunleashed.wordpress.com</a></p>
<p>Fair-Issac controls your credit score (and the only credit bureau recognized by banks) &#8230; Bad Credit, sorry, the report on your job application has deemed you ineligible for this job.</p>
<p> Banks- The sooner you understand the dynamic going on, the sooner you will realize the jeopardy the citizens of this country are in&#8230; and it isn&#8217;t from Mortgage Brokers or Loan Originators. They were the scapegoat used by the banking industry to throw you off the sins they&#8217;ve committed with your assets. </p>
<p>Your stock portfolio, your pension fund, your retirement savings, your college funds under the auspice of our glad handing Congress never regulating Hedge Funds. Which is exactly where the sub-prime loans went during 2000 to 2005 and which caused this Financial Crisis by way of derivatives.</p>
<p>Each Sub-Prime Lender was a subsidy of an investment bank you would easily recognize. This is the reason why I have taken the time to explain all this in depth for alerting you to keep your eye on the right ball. It isn&#8217;t mortgage brokers or Loan Modifiers that need watching but it is the banks you should be watching as they are the nemesis that are the real threat to our way of life.</p>
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Desert Sage Says:<br />
July 17th, 2009 at 10:15 am</p>
<p>Predatory lending is only peripheral to the core issue… Why not expand your prose with what allowed the predatory lending to occur, namely government forced lending practices and lack of oversight?</p>
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Desert Sage,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve touched on that issue in my above response. Worrying about Loan Modifications and the Loan Originators who do them is a complete waste of time. It&#8217;s the Banks, Congress and the Fed that should be the focus.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure who your question was directed to, myself or Wizcon. I&#8217;ll leave it up to you to continue.</p>
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