Comments on: ‘He Thought a Baby Would Keep Me in His Life Forever’: When Partner Abuse Isn’t a Bruise But a Pregnant Belly

By: Sage

Sage — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:55:37 +0000

No problem and no apology necessary. How are you Al? Good to see you and thanks for the link. I’ll check it out.

By: Al

Al — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:19:54 +0000

with apologies to Sage, thought I had made a good faith attempt to remove the http: before inserting the rest of the link.

“weeeknd”–lol.

By: Al

Al — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:15:40 +0000

Wow, what a stunning percentage, 99%, of these cases involving teenage pregnancy having an undercurrent of unexposed abuse yet to be uncovered–absolutely mind-boggling, especially when one considers the outcome/dynamics of the couples involved who do not seek intervention, but yet impact the lives of their off-spring…low whistle–certainly not a cycle/legacy to encourage. Innocent children and females alike deserve better treatment, choices and outcomes.

Wizcon, with apologies to that famous Virginia Slims commercial(“you’ve come a long ways…”) it’s encouraging that females of today are finally beginning to recieve the R*E*S*P*E*C*T they have always deserved.

Stopped in briefly to wish Sage and all of you guys a safe and Happy 4th of July weekend celebration.

PS: Several days ago there was an eBay listing where a seller was/is attempting to pull a Chief Sammy Korir, essentially saying he/she had within their possession, yes, you may have guessed already, President Obama’s actual original birth-certificate from a hospital in Mombassa, Kenya…

http://www.youtube.com/user/InspectorSmith (purposely omitted the full link because I’m not sure if Sage wants/allows them on her site, but trust that if anyone here wants to investigate further–if someone hasn’t already, you guys are tops at Gracing(Grace) and Slugging(Sluggo)out Korir like antics.

Again, have a safe and Happy 4th of July weeeknd celebration.

By: Sage

Sage — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:54:31 +0000

I think we would all be shocked at how many people were sexually abused in their childhood. I was but not by a family member. I didn’t tell anyone until I was 25 years old.

By: Wizcon

Wizcon — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:05:49 +0000

Children had no rights back then. Like women, their legal standing was pretty much the equivalent of chattel. ie when I was hospitalized in college at 17, I had to ask my folks what was wrong with me (2000 miles away) The Drs. wouldn’t tell me only take this x times a day.

By: AliSilver

AliSilver — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 12:02:46 +0000

Another thing is ‘back in the day’ people were ashamed to talk about such things EVEN if they were happening to others. There were so many taboo subjects and even though a lot of ADULTS may have known what was going on with a teen being abused or molested, they would not say. Probably because of the ‘what would we do then’ aspect. So you tell the police a man is abusing his daughter, and they would do WHAT? Tell him to stop ? There were not resources and as much information now. ALSO,,, back then I think the general population thought once the abuse is STOPPED, everything will be fine. No one knew until much later ( even though it seems obvious) that the scars would be with the child for life.
I was a teenager before I knew one of my great uncles was a repeat sex offender and only then because one of my uncles told me!When he said it , my mom said to him ” hush your mouth”,, she was still in the protect the perp. mode and thought it would bring SHAME on her family name if someone knew the truth. In the 60’s this man was castrated by the state of AZ. Now tell me how extreme a pedo you gotta be in the 60’s to be castrated? I would say his victim list is very long. Where do you suppose those victims are today? Probably, with no counseling, a big majority of them are alcoholics, drug addicts, OCD sufferers and of course some are pedophiles themselves.

Oh,,,,lest I forget,,, he too ( like my other pedo. family member) was an extremely well known and respected Pastor

By: Wizcon

Wizcon — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:50:08 +0000

Another thing. when I lived way out in the country I had one of those outside storm door covering a stone stairway to my cellar. I left it unlocked for two women in the valley as access to my house if I wasn’t home because both had abusive hubbies. Both used it and were free to use the phone or wait for me to come home and take them somewhere. If they left before I got home, I could always tell they had been there. The older one always tidied up the baby changing table and clothes and the other would clean something.

By: Wizcon

Wizcon — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:43:48 +0000

A woman I went to high school with (40 yrs ago) recently found me on facebook and told me what her life was like. Alcoholic abusive mother and sexually abusive step Dad. She told no one. She said when she was 16 she threatened her stp father with a knife and he left her alone after that. that was our senior year. She left home and eventually totally changed her name. She decided at some point to not to think of herself as a victim. I remember her as a timid shy girl.
The point is, it WAS happenening and the incidence may even have been in greater numbers. It just wasn’t spoken about as there was no recourse. The victims were victimized all over again by the police, the courts and society with the message that somehow they deserved it. They tempted the pervy perp. because you wore a mini skirt, were out after dark, walking alone, had breasts, were female and my favorite “boys will be boys”.
Going further back, I recently got a letter from a woman who went to high school with my parents, in the 1930’s in a small town in WI. The country kids often lived in town in apartments together. She spoke of one of her room mates having to drop out of high school and get married because of a pregnancy.In the same town in 1970, my grandmothers neighbors daughter married her sweetheart her senior year….he was going to vietnam. She was not pregnant but not allowed in gym class because she was “A married woman”.

By: Sage

Sage — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:15:35 +0000

I don’t get it either. I don’t remember any physical abuse cases from high school either, but I think parents were more involved with their kids back then.

In the mid 70’s we did rescue a woman from an abusive marriage. She was 19 years old, married and thought she deserved being beaten because her life had been “easy” except for the abortion the husband insisted she have. She was doing penance for the abortion I think. We called her parents and put her on a bus home but not before a nasty confrontation with her husband. We had to call the cops on him.

By: AliSilver

AliSilver — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:59:40 +0000

I don’t understand these young men. I am a child of th 70’s,, teenager of the 80’s and back then….. there was just very little of this going on. OF COURSE logic tells me that there was more of it , even then, than meets the eye. But it seems, as much as child molesters are growing in numbers by leaps and bounds, so are domestic abusers. I have a neighbor with twin girls who are now about 25 ish. I saw them grow up , watched them, knew them well. One of them is now married to a wife beater. She was such a strong independant girl and the other twin was meek and quiet. Just never the kind of girl you would THINK would tolerate that for asecond from anyone. They got married because she was pregnant…… now she’s got 2 children. She met this boy in her first or 2nd year of HIGH SCHOOl and has been with him since. Her daddy has beaten his ass more than once for hitting his daughter….. just doesn’t seem to matter.